OK, well where do i start? First off I have to say I'm pretty pissed off with the 666.
I own a Meta 5, in fact I have two, one as my main bike and one that I leave at a holiday location so I've always a bike there. I love my Meta 5, I've ridden one since they first came out in 05. It makes me a better rider. This is not some salesy BS but it really does. I can descend fine, but I need all the help I can get on the climbs, and this bike helps me climb. It's also a exceptionally versatile bike. I've downhill'd on one with long travel forks in Spain for a week, I've also done many epic rides on one, with only a swop to lighter shorter travel forks. I've been riding MTB's since about 1989 and the Meta 5 is by far my favorite bike ever. Even over by beloved GT LTS that I had in the mid to late 90's.
I've only ever had two issues with the Meta5: One is the low BB which to be honest I've now got very used to and appreciate the benefits (but it does still bug me from time to time), the other is the slack seat angle. I'm pretty tall and have some pretty big problems with my lower back. I really need to be right over the BB when seated else my back starts to cry. On the Meta 5 I've always had to run an inline post with the saddle right forward on the rails. Looks a bit odd but it works for me. I guess the other thing is having ridden six inch bikes as regular rides since about 2000 I've always liked the idea of having just a wee bit more travel that the 5 offers. But I've always accepted that to get longer travel means slacker angles (great for DH, crap for climbing) and a lot more weight than say the Meta 5 frame.
I've more or less got over these few issues and have been in love with the five for nearly 3 years now. On paper the 666 was always going to be a contender for my affections, but having ridden a couple of them (albeit in too small a size for me) it never really did it for me in the way the five does, so I kinda discounted it for my own use, and to be honest, never fully "got" the point of the bike, in the UK at least.
Last week a customer came in and wanted a Meta5, he's the same height as me so we looked at options and he tried my bike. He loved it, but coming from a Supreme Mini DH he was not sure if it was a little under sprung for him, so we started to look at the 666. It just so happened I had an XL frame in stock so in the end the decision was made to do a custom build on it. He spec'd more or less the same parts that I had on my Meta 5 so I knew it was going to be a great opportunity to compare the two.
God I wish I hadn't.
After finally getting the 666 finished I got to have my first proper ride (test ride you understand!) on a 666 that actually fits me. Bottom line? I hate it. I hate it for many reasons, but the main reason is it's just made me fall out of love with my five, and more over Christmas is coming and like everyone else I've got to spend all my money on the wife and kids, so how the hell am I going to find the cash to replace my Meta 5 with the awesome 666?
Life is just not fair some times.
I hate the 666 because the angles are just so so perfect. The head angle is about the same as the five, which contrary to what the mags have been saying is a very very good thing. I've no real idea why everyone was expecting a Meta to have a super slack DH head angle. It's a Meta not a supreme after all!
Best of all though is the seat angle, it's way steeper than the 5, by at least a degree I'd say, meaning your sitting right over the BB, very central on the bike. These two things along mean it's a killer climber, with no real need for adjustable forks (providing you stick to the recommended 160mm option). Of course this also means if your so inclined, and if you want the bike a bit slacker, the option is there is to run an even longer fork. Putting 180mm of bounce up front will slacked off the head angle to DH standards and return to seat angle to that of the Meta 5. It would also most likely invalidate your warranty, so don't go crying to mama if you break it.
So, the 666 climbs as well, or dare I say better than the Meta 5, what's it like in the downs? OMG it's perfect! it feels just like the five only with a bit more travel and a bit more beef behind it. You do need to work the bike a bit as the BB is a bit higher off the ground than the 5 (the 666 BB height is exactly in the middle of that of the five and Supreme MDH), but that work is rewarded with an awesome ride. It grips like the 5 yet soaks everything up like the Supreme MDH. It never wallows in it's travel and just like the five feels very direct when you put the power down.
So, is the 666 a Meta 5 or Supreme DH killer? Well, it's neither really. It will do the job of both, pretty bloody well, but it'll not replace either: The Meta 5 will always be the 30lb trail bike, and the Supreme MDH will always exactly that, a high 30lb short travel DH bike. Sure the 666 can be built up to a near 30lb bike, but it's kinda missing the point, to get to that weight you can forget about anything other than lightweight XC tyres, and a chain device, and a coil fork upfront. What it will kill is the desire to over build the Meta 5. Why would you now when the 666 is every bit as good (even better if your picky about the seat angle) and have a bit more travel and is a bit burlier?
Finally, why do I hate the 666 so much? Well until now my biking life has been simple. I've a Meta 5 as my main ride and a Supreme MDH for when things get a bit downhilly. The 666 has just messed all that up. If I get one I'll never be out on a ride and feel I'm on the wrong bike for the terrain. But to get one means some harsh decisions have to made: Does Santa forget to stop at my home this year, or do I sell a kidney on Ebay?
Decisions decisions decision. (Anyone want a 2nd hand lung? One not very careful owner from new)
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Wednesday, November 21
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Steveb
on Wed 21 Nov 2007 11:23 GMT
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